“Wheel spacers are for idiots…!”
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“Wheel spacers are for idiots…!”
“Wheel spacers are for idiots…!” That’s what I was told when I went into a local rim shop while shopping for new shoes for my G.
An old man behind the counter with a history of plaques, trophies, and photos hung on the wall behind him confirming his past presence in the world of auto racing explained to me why it was that in this new era of auto enthusiasts, many of us who search and seek out wheels spacers for the purpose of “looks” end up dampening the performance and handling factor of today’s prestigious automotive machines.
Now I’m no expert with regards to this, and so what he ended up pitching to support this theory (or fact to him) in all honesty did somewhat match up and made somewhat sense to my elementary knowledge regarding this. In short, he stated that due to the extension of length at which the wheels will now protrude from the hub, aside from the power loss to the wheels as a direct result of power travel (forgot what his technical name of this he had said, but it's the same issue with front engine, RWD cars that lose power inertia through the drive axle), there is the added stress to the suspension components, therefore increase the risk of mechanical failure during aggressive driving conditions (turns, acceleration, braking, etc.).
I will admit that at first it didn’t make much sense, but when he used an extreme example of the situation to paint the picture, I kind of started to buy into this. He used as example all of those late model, low riding Buick Regals, Chevy Monte Carlos, and so on that drive around with the tiny 13” multi-spoke wheels and whitewalls sticking way out of the fender area. I’m sure most of you guys have seen them right? Well using those vehicles as examples, he asked that rim size factor aside, “how do you think those axles and other suspension components are taking the stress factor when the vehicle faces emergency maneuvering situations, or the driver want to perform some aggressive driving for the fun of it?”. Then an a full picture image of the situation started to make somewhat sense to me.
Now as he stated, of course in comparison to what I was asking for with regards to wheel spacer size, those low riders in the example provided are extreme, but the basic concept is there. Factor in the fact that today’s vehicles for which we search and seek out these spacers are designed from manufacturers for everyday driving and occasional aggressive/emergency situations that may arise, therefore incorporating “weaker” and more cost efficient parts and components that all in all, compose the suspension designs of our vehicles. Adding per say an extra ½ to 1” extension at each wheel hub may not seem as much to us, but in the grand scheme of things in relation to the mechanical components of the suspension, it’s quite a bit of hardship.
Whew…!!! What do you guys think? Yay or Nay on wheels spacers? I know we’ve probably all heard horror stories with regards to these and the dangers of having a wheel fly out while rolling if not bolted and tightened up right, but with all that and the preventive measures one could possibly take, are they still worth it? Safety and performance wise that is.
Tire and wheel expertsw, please share your opinion on this, since now I am all confused on this and I assume others are riding the same boat of confusion as I am...
Thanks!
An old man behind the counter with a history of plaques, trophies, and photos hung on the wall behind him confirming his past presence in the world of auto racing explained to me why it was that in this new era of auto enthusiasts, many of us who search and seek out wheels spacers for the purpose of “looks” end up dampening the performance and handling factor of today’s prestigious automotive machines.
Now I’m no expert with regards to this, and so what he ended up pitching to support this theory (or fact to him) in all honesty did somewhat match up and made somewhat sense to my elementary knowledge regarding this. In short, he stated that due to the extension of length at which the wheels will now protrude from the hub, aside from the power loss to the wheels as a direct result of power travel (forgot what his technical name of this he had said, but it's the same issue with front engine, RWD cars that lose power inertia through the drive axle), there is the added stress to the suspension components, therefore increase the risk of mechanical failure during aggressive driving conditions (turns, acceleration, braking, etc.).
I will admit that at first it didn’t make much sense, but when he used an extreme example of the situation to paint the picture, I kind of started to buy into this. He used as example all of those late model, low riding Buick Regals, Chevy Monte Carlos, and so on that drive around with the tiny 13” multi-spoke wheels and whitewalls sticking way out of the fender area. I’m sure most of you guys have seen them right? Well using those vehicles as examples, he asked that rim size factor aside, “how do you think those axles and other suspension components are taking the stress factor when the vehicle faces emergency maneuvering situations, or the driver want to perform some aggressive driving for the fun of it?”. Then an a full picture image of the situation started to make somewhat sense to me.
Now as he stated, of course in comparison to what I was asking for with regards to wheel spacer size, those low riders in the example provided are extreme, but the basic concept is there. Factor in the fact that today’s vehicles for which we search and seek out these spacers are designed from manufacturers for everyday driving and occasional aggressive/emergency situations that may arise, therefore incorporating “weaker” and more cost efficient parts and components that all in all, compose the suspension designs of our vehicles. Adding per say an extra ½ to 1” extension at each wheel hub may not seem as much to us, but in the grand scheme of things in relation to the mechanical components of the suspension, it’s quite a bit of hardship.
Whew…!!! What do you guys think? Yay or Nay on wheels spacers? I know we’ve probably all heard horror stories with regards to these and the dangers of having a wheel fly out while rolling if not bolted and tightened up right, but with all that and the preventive measures one could possibly take, are they still worth it? Safety and performance wise that is.
Tire and wheel expertsw, please share your opinion on this, since now I am all confused on this and I assume others are riding the same boat of confusion as I am...
Thanks!
#3
I could use a small spacer up front to make the wheels sit flush, but since I track the car I won't use spacers. I think for daily driving (and probably even the track) a small spacer is fine and should not cause any problems... but I'd rather not risk it since it does nothing positive for performance.
#5
in terms of stress, i doubt it would be much more than if you had those effective offsets to begin with.
so by saying a -5 offset will wear your wheel bearings faster than a +30 is theoretically correct.
Also, with the range of offsets available for wheels that look good on a g/z, if you wanna wait/pay , you shouldnt have to use spacers anyhow.
A set of 4 spacers is over 200$. gotta remember that when you find a good deal on high offset wheels.
so by saying a -5 offset will wear your wheel bearings faster than a +30 is theoretically correct.
Also, with the range of offsets available for wheels that look good on a g/z, if you wanna wait/pay , you shouldnt have to use spacers anyhow.
A set of 4 spacers is over 200$. gotta remember that when you find a good deal on high offset wheels.
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in terms of stress, i doubt it would be much more than if you had those effective offsets to begin with.
so by saying a -5 offset will wear your wheel bearings faster than a +30 is theoretically correct.
Also, with the range of offsets available for wheels that look good on a g/z, if you wanna wait/pay , you shouldnt have to use spacers anyhow.
A set of 4 spacers is over 200$. gotta remember that when you find a good deal on high offset wheels.
so by saying a -5 offset will wear your wheel bearings faster than a +30 is theoretically correct.
Also, with the range of offsets available for wheels that look good on a g/z, if you wanna wait/pay , you shouldnt have to use spacers anyhow.
A set of 4 spacers is over 200$. gotta remember that when you find a good deal on high offset wheels.
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Somebody better get a hold of these guys and tell them, cause they're using them.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...t_2/index.html
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...t_2/index.html
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I had 5mm spacers on the front of my G to get the M45 wheels to clear the upper arms. When I got new wheels at Discount Tire, they would not let me leave the shop with ANY kind of spacer on. It you have spacers, they will sell you the wheels, but they wont put them on or warrant them.
Lucky my new wheels had a perfect flush fit.
Here are the M45's:
Lucky my new wheels had a perfect flush fit.
Here are the M45's:
Last edited by Texasscout; 12-30-2008 at 07:43 AM.
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